GTA IV: Should it have been multiplayer from the start?

http://nmaps.net/user/andru94 · Postby **andru94** » 2009.07.01 (10:55)

It's me again, talking about GTA IV again.

http://nmaps.net/user/T3chno · Postby **T3chno** » 2009.07.01 (17:44)

D00d, you're birth year is 1994 (which I'm assuming from your name, because assumptions are kewl), making you only 14/15 years old and therefore not old enough to play this game. May I recommend Dora Saves the Mermaids as an alternative?

http://nmaps.net/user/Drathmoore · Postby **Drathmoore** » 2009.07.01 (17:54)

Flight wrote:D00d, you're birth year is 1994 (which I'm assuming from your name, because assumptions are kewl), making you only 14/15 years old and therefore not old enough to play this game. May I recommend Dora Saves the Mermaids as an alternative?

Tech- I mean, Flight, you forget who the main demographic of these games are. Most players of Halo are 12 years old and heavily butcher the English Language.

Damn 12 year olds....

What do you mean "from the beginning". Being only 16, I've never actually played GTA IV, so I don't know if you mean it should have been developed with Multiplayer in mind, or that Multiplayer is downloadable...

Postby **Luminaflare** » 2009.07.01 (18:28)

andru94 wrote:It's me again, talking about GTA IV again.

You playing this game is illegal, I refer you to the forum rules not permitting any illegal activities.

http://nmaps.net/user/spawn_of_yanni · Postby **Spawn of Yanni** » 2009.07.01 (19:14)

I'm gonna ignore the fact that you're talking about online here.

After the little single-screen multiplayer bonus mode thing that was seen in San Andreas, I'm surprised that they didn't include a similar feature in IV; 'twould probably have been mucho fun. I'm also disappointed that they didn't include flying car cheats and such - unrealistic, sure, and they may well have wanted to go down a different route for GTA IV, but I feel like it's been sort of a tradition with the 3D GTAs to have wacky cheats to screw around with.

http://nmaps.net/user/donfuy · Postby **Donfuy** » 2009.07.01 (19:50)

Spawn of Yanni wrote:I'm gonna ignore the fact that you're talking about online here.

After the little single-screen multiplayer bonus mode thing that was seen in San Andreas, I'm surprised that they didn't include a similar feature in IV; 'twould probably have been mucho fun. I'm also disappointed that they didn't include flying car cheats and such - unrealistic, sure, and they may well have wanted to go down a different route for GTA IV, but I feel like it's been sort of a tradition with the 3D GTAs to have wacky cheats to screw around with.

Yeah, RIPAZHA and AGBDLCID were my favs.

Anyway, the only-city-map pretty killed it for me and multiplayer in San Andreas wasn't all that good. It was a great mess.

http://nmaps.net/user/smartalco · Postby **smartalco** » 2009.07.02 (05:05)

Ackmest Dansam wrote:You playing this game is illegal, I refer you to the forum rules not permitting any illegal activities.

Playing, no; buying, yes.

Postby **Luminaflare** » 2009.07.02 (06:43)

smartalco wrote:
Ackmest Dansam wrote:You playing this game is illegal, I refer you to the forum rules not permitting any illegal activities.
Playing, no; buying, yes.

O_o

Fairly sure it's illegal in the UK to play games rated over your age.

http://nmaps.net/user/Drathmoore · Postby **Drathmoore** » 2009.07.02 (07:18)

Ackmest Dansam wrote:
smartalco wrote:
Ackmest Dansam wrote:You playing this game is illegal, I refer you to the forum rules not permitting any illegal activities.
Playing, no; buying, yes.
O_o

Fairly sure it's illegal in the UK to play games rated over your age.

I'm not sure if it is, actually... Although it seems that the majority of people in the UK who play this game are under the age anyway.

http://nmaps.net/user/andru94 · Postby **andru94** » 2009.07.02 (07:33)

Ackmest Dansam wrote:
andru94 wrote:It's me again, talking about GTA IV again.
You playing this game is illegal, I refer you to the forum rules not permitting any illegal activities.

It is rated ma15+ which means persons of the age 15 and PLUS can play the game our watch the movie(s). A

http://nmaps.net/user/andru94 · Postby **andru94** » 2009.07.02 (07:40)

After the little single-screen multiplayer bonus mode thing that was seen in San Andreas, I'm surprised that they didn't include a similar feature in IV; 'twould probably have been mucho fun. I'm also disappointed that they didn't include flying car cheats and such - unrealistic, sure, and they may well have wanted to go down a different route for GTA IV, but I feel like it's been sort of a tradition with the 3D GTAs to have wacky cheats to screw around with.[/quote]

Me too, I am suppriesd that they didnt include one screne multiplayer but the reason there were no flying cars cheat is because of 911, think about it planes, jets and flying cars above a fictional New York... hmmmmmm no way!!

http://nmaps.net/user/Drathmoore · Postby **Drathmoore** » 2009.07.02 (07:59)

I won't comment on the double-post; that's a mod's job.

The game was rated M by ESRB. Which means 17+. And over in the UK, it was rated an 18 by the BBFC and PEGI.

However, in Austrailia it was rated ma15+, which is stupid. Allowing 15 year olds to play a game with extremely strong language, drug abuse, and sexual content? Come on...

http://nmaps.net/user/Guitar_Hero_Matt · Postby **MattKestrel** » 2009.07.02 (08:11)

Drathmoore wrote:However, in Austrailia it was rated ma15+, which is stupid. Allowing 15 year olds to play a game with extremely strong language, drug abuse, and sexual content? Come on...

> Extreme Violence - Crackdown - 12
> Strong Language - Sonic The Hedgehog (i.e. it inspires you to sware) - 12+
> Drug Abuse - Oblivion - 15. Oh, wait.

Erm...

"Chief Political Eagle!"

http://nmaps.net/user/spawn_of_yanni · Postby **Spawn of Yanni** » 2009.07.02 (08:49)

Me too, I am suppriesd that they didnt include one screne multiplayer but the reason there were no flying cars cheat is because of 911, think about it planes, jets and flying cars above a fictional New York... hmmmmmm no way!!

... right, flying cars trying to crash into the WTC - which doesn't exist in the game - is wayy crossing the line. I mean, helicopters flying around into buildings is all good. As is cop-killing, civilian-annihilating, and general carnage-inducing activities. Just as long as there aren't any cars in the air because that just brings up too many bad memories. I can't even watch Flubber anymore without a tear running down my cheek.

http://nmaps.net/user/astheoceansblue · Postby **a happy song** » 2009.07.02 (08:58)

Ackmest Dansam wrote:
smartalco wrote:
Ackmest Dansam wrote:You playing this game is illegal, I refer you to the forum rules not permitting any illegal activities.
Playing, no; buying, yes.
O_o

Fairly sure it's illegal in the UK to play games rated over your age.

Nope, just illegal to buy. A parent can purchase an 18 rated game for their five year old to play if they so wish.

http://nmaps.net/user/Drathmoore · Postby **Drathmoore** » 2009.07.02 (09:16)

GTM wrote: Strong Language - Sonic The Hedgehog - 12+

You've played the Japanese version? And you forgot the "subtle" beastiality indications.

Postby **Luminaflare** » 2009.07.02 (12:17)

brighter wrote:
Ackmest Dansam wrote:
smartalco wrote:Playing, no; buying, yes.
O_o

Fairly sure it's illegal in the UK to play games rated over your age.
Nope, just illegal to buy. A parent can purchase an 18 rated game for their five year old to play if they so wish.

Ok, but I know it is illegal for an 18 rated game to be sold to someone if it looks like they're buying for someone under-age (Just like buying alcohol for under-age people).

http://nmaps.net/user/maestro · Postby **乳头的早餐谷物** » 2009.07.02 (13:10)

Drathmoore wrote:I won't comment on the double-post; that's a mod's job.

The game was rated M by ESRB. Which means 17+. And over in the UK, it was rated an 18 by the BBFC and PEGI.

However, in Austrailia it was rated ma15+, which is stupid. Allowing 15 year olds to play a game with extremely strong language, drug abuse, and sexual content? Come on...

We don't have a higher rating than that in Australia, so if it wasn't MA15+ it would be banned altogether.

http://nmaps.net/user/Drathmoore · Postby **Drathmoore** » 2009.07.02 (13:40)

ortsz wrote:
Drathmoore wrote:I won't comment on the double-post; that's a mod's job.

The game was rated M by ESRB. Which means 17+. And over in the UK, it was rated an 18 by the BBFC and PEGI.

However, in Austrailia it was rated ma15+, which is stupid. Allowing 15 year olds to play a game with extremely strong language, drug abuse, and sexual content? Come on...
We don't have a higher rating than that in Australia, so if it wasn't MA15+ it would be banned altogether.

Ah. Well, that at least gives it a reason to why it's been given that rating...

But wasn't one of the GTA games banned? I think it was San Andreas, but I can't remember exactly (I'm mainly guessing due to the "hot coffee" incident...).

Postby **SlappyMcGee** » 2009.07.02 (13:51)

Drathmoore wrote:
ortsz wrote:
Drathmoore wrote:I won't comment on the double-post; that's a mod's job.

The game was rated M by ESRB. Which means 17+. And over in the UK, it was rated an 18 by the BBFC and PEGI.

However, in Austrailia it was rated ma15+, which is stupid. Allowing 15 year olds to play a game with extremely strong language, drug abuse, and sexual content? Come on...
We don't have a higher rating than that in Australia, so if it wasn't MA15+ it would be banned altogether.

Ah. Well, that at least gives it a reason to why it's been given that rating...

But wasn't one of the GTA games banned? I think it was San Andreas, but I can't remember exactly (I'm mainly guessing due to the "hot coffee" incident...).

I dunno where fifteen year old are getting enough money for GTAIV, and I don't know why they aren't old enough to be exposed to this content (studies have shown that most folk are completely aware of these things at 12.) What I do know is that it is up to the parent to control purchases and censor their child. Which is why the law that is in place, at least here, is ridiculous. A person who buys a game underage will not be punished, it is, in fact, the store. So, now, stores are being punished and forced to ID because parents can't make sure their child doesn't have fifty extra dollars to spend on a video game, which, below the age of fifteen, is ludicrous without stealing or having a good summer job.

http://nmaps.net/user/z3phyr · Postby **Zephyr** » 2009.07.05 (05:11)

Australians are getting an edited version because we don't have a rating higher than MA15+ for video games and IV seems to fly above that, they aren't going to make a new rating for one game so they decide to make the game meet MA15+.
Which means if we want the normal version we must buy online or get it in another country.

http://nmaps.net/user/Tunco123 · Postby **Tunco** » 2009.07.05 (09:37)

Ackmest Dansam wrote:
brighter wrote:
Ackmest Dansam wrote: O_o

Fairly sure it's illegal in the UK to play games rated over your age.
Nope, just illegal to buy. A parent can purchase an 18 rated game for their five year old to play if they so wish.
Ok, but I know it is illegal for an 18 rated game to be sold to someone if it looks like they're buying for someone under-age (Just like buying alcohol for under-age people).

No, just no. - LF

http://nmaps.net/user/andru94 · Postby **andru94** » 2009.07.13 (08:26)

Look, all I can say is that there are alot worse game out the and if you think about it, who cares?

http://nmaps.net/user/Drathmoore · Postby **Drathmoore** » 2009.07.14 (17:03)

andru94 wrote:Look, all I can say is that there are alot worse game out the and if you think about it, who cares?

Parents - Because they may not like the content.
Game Developers - To know what content gives what rating.
Shops - To know who to aim the game at.
The Rating Groups - They need to get the ratings exactly right.

That's all I can think of at the moment, but there's probably more...

http://nmaps.net/user/jackass77 · Postby **jackass** » 2009.09.03 (12:23)

I live in Australia and yeah our ratings only go up to MA15+. I think thats a decent rating because after 15 your pretty much old enough to make your own decisions and know about all the content you may experience in games.

Though i play games underage, yes for example GTA IV. im 13 but im not stupid enough to get overwhelmed by this stuff.

I dont like american ratings (sorry guys :) ) but i think 18 is stupid. maybe 16 is more suitable than 15 but 18, what a joke. For example halo 3 in america is rated what 16+ or something? sorry if im wrong guys but if im right, thats rediculus and all it is, is science-fiction violence with the occasional bit of blood. which any body would have seen. im sick of americans complaining about 12 year olds playing the game when simply thats what its rated down here. sorry for rambling on :)

oh and to answer the question, no who cares. the old gtas arent good enough to support online game play.

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