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http://nmaps.net/user/gloomp · Postby **unoriginal name** » 2008.10.19 (16:15)

GTM wrote:I agree with Evil Sire. we should set up a thread where experienced memebers can just post individual tips for new mapmakers, then at the end compile it all in a massive guide. Im here for ya!!!

Mmm, that'd be great. I'm not sure if it would work, but a noble idea. Worth a try, as a matter of fact.

http://nmaps.net/user/yungerkid · Postby **yungerkid** » 2008.10.19 (19:48)

ehh, i think that there's a much, *much* easier and more efficient way to get that point across.

http://nmaps.net/user/astheoceansblue · Postby **a happy song** » 2008.10.19 (19:51)

yungerkid wrote:ehh, i think that there's a much, *much* easier and more efficient way to get that point across.

Feel more than free to educate :)

http://nmaps.net/user/yungerkid · Postby **yungerkid** » 2008.10.20 (01:32)

i made a rant about this a while ago in the map theory thread. i think that making essays directed solely at the elimination of the problem is a much more efficient way to go because it is more direct. you logically state your views, the enemy logically (erm...) states theirs, and the best side wins. ok, what i'm basically saying is, you should set up a formal debate (with...?) over whether mapmaking guides are helpful or not. imho a debate would be much more efficient than the vague message that this guide presents.

http://nmaps.net/user/wulfgang · Postby **wolfgang** » 2008.10.21 (00:48)

I too picked it as a counter thread, but hey, it's hardly mean spirited or cruel. People shouldn't take themselves so seriously they react angrily to a gentle satirical jab, to themselves or on behalf of others.

And in general I agree with Atob's premise, you get better by refining your concepts of what makes a map good and raising your own expectations. Because maps are such varied things any advice more specific than the most general of terms can only be useful in a very limiting set of circumstances, and this means you aren't going to branch out and develop if you always try to follow map making guidlines.

http://nmaps.net/user/crescor · Postby **crescor** » 2008.10.27 (18:36)

[quote="atob"]

As I said, the satire is aimed at the idea of map making GUIDES. There are no references, derogatory or otherwise, to any actual people at all.
quote]

When I read that, it seems as you are against the idea of making map guides. (Correct me if I'm wrong, please.)

You say that here, but I've seen a lot of maps on NUMA where you redirect newer players to Jeff-Killian's mapping guide. You are contradicting yourself.

http://nmaps.net/user/crescor · Postby **crescor** » 2008.10.27 (18:37)

And yes, I don't know how to quote properly;)

http://nmaps.net/user/astheoceansblue · Postby **a happy song** » 2008.10.27 (18:45)

crescor wrote:
atob wrote:
As I said, the satire is aimed at the idea of map making GUIDES. There are no references, derogatory or otherwise, to any actual people at all.
quote]

When I read that, it seems as you are against the idea of making map guides. (Correct me if I'm wrong, please.)

You say that here, but I've seen a lot of maps on NUMA where you redirect newer players to Jeff-Killian's mapping guide. You are contradicting yourself.

No I'm not, I'm just lazy. Stop trying to be smart at me.

http://nmaps.net/user/Guitar_Hero_Matt · Postby **MattKestrel** » 2008.10.27 (18:50)

*BUMP!*

Sorry, I was trying the subtle approach :)

I still think someone should set up a thread where experst can just post individual tips. I might later if no one else does.

http://nmaps.net/user/crescor · Postby **crescor** » 2008.10.27 (18:51)

Sophism.
By the way, very poor reply, atob.

http://nmaps.net/user/astheoceansblue · Postby **a happy song** » 2008.10.27 (18:58)

crescor wrote:Sophism.
By the way, very poor reply, atob.

Right, because semi-trolling at me is the height of thoughtfulness and articulation?.

OK, fine, I'll give you a proper answer:

Jeff Kilian's guide doesn't tell you how to build a map, it tells you how to avoid the basic mistakes many new authors fall fowl to. It's a really great OBJECTIVE set of pointers.

Like mine.

http://nmaps.net/user/crescor · Postby **crescor** » 2008.10.27 (19:10)

I never semi-trolled.

http://nmaps.net/user/astheoceansblue · Postby **a happy song** » 2008.10.27 (19:13)

Semantics. Jeeze... but then, I was being lazy again...

I can see you enjoy irony.

Care to give me a proper response?

http://nmaps.net/user/Guitar_Hero_Matt · Postby **MattKestrel** » 2008.10.27 (19:24)

I would have said hemi demi semi trolling, but meh :)

http://www.nmaps.net/user/numa_ninja · Postby **numa_ninja** » 2008.10.28 (08:09)

gloomp wrote:
GTM wrote:I agree with Evil Sire. we should set up a thread where experienced memebers can just post individual tips for new mapmakers, then at the end compile it all in a massive guide. Im here for ya!!!
Mmm, that'd be great. I'm not sure if it would work, but a noble idea. Worth a try, as a matter of fact.

I think you're looking for something like this, except compiled and expanded.

http://nmaps.net/user/N_625 · Postby **Someone** » 2008.11.02 (08:33)

nice guidelines

http://nmaps.net/user/rikaninja · Postby **Rikaninja** » 2008.11.10 (07:50)

gloomp wrote:
GTM wrote:I agree with Evil Sire. we should set up a thread where experienced memebers can just post individual tips for new mapmakers, then at the end compile it all in a massive guide. Im here for ya!!!
Mmm, that'd be great. I'm not sure if it would work, but a noble idea. Worth a try, as a matter of fact.

Nice one there. I would like that even though I'm nowhere nere experienced yet.
Nice worb atob
And don't call me rika call me ran

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