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As i have been on numa .. the ratings people are giving have been much higher than needed ... it seems now that 4 is alright and 2 is Crap when its not.

0 - Crap
1- Improvment Needed
2- Could Be Better
3- Average Map
4- Great Map
5- Amazing

That is about what ratings should be rated for but from cases ive seen is people are just going around rating everything 4 nowadays

This isnt much a problem but it is sorta starting to annoy me for example

A Properly Rated Map -
A Unproper Rated Map - Read the Comment,

On Many Cases it has been Kaylab .. and mostly noobs .. I probably done it on occasion but now its just happening on nearly every map,

Just Bringing it Up ... Cheers - Jackass

Oh, people do that all the time. We don't all vote in the same way, and you can't force people to. One man's junk is another's treasure. While you thought the map wasn't deserving of it's rating, Kaylab obviously did. And this is regardless of any inherent flaws in the map itself. You could bring up the whole objective/subjective argument again, but I'm sure we don't want that.

Yer ... Ill Leave It

No Worrys - Jackass

I have seen this a lot. While people are allowed to rate a map whatever they want I think some people need to think a bit more about a rating. Like what mintnut said one time, this type of mindset in rating is a breeding ground for bad map making, or something like that. When a map gets a 4 or 5 when it doesnt deserve it that person wont improve, because they dont think they have to.

Kaylab really bugs me.

i know what you mean.

saddly, i have nothing to contribute to this discussion :(

This problem has been bitched about for as long as I've been at Metanet. Three and a half years now, I think. It can't be resolved without abolishing the rating system, so as long as you want that, there will be such problems with it.

At this point, as long as new members are joining, then there will be improper ratings.
Cause if someone new at map making rates based on comparison with their own maps, and their maps sucks, then obviously everything would be rated 4+,
and vice versa, if they think their map was better, then everything is 3-
And newer members won't be able to recognise what makes a map good/bad, hence ratings will be different.

Kaylab, o mann don't get started. Infact I used to like him when he just started. I taught him a few simple things like faving and submitting etc. Now he just come up to one of my maps and say. "Cool Bro! That map was awesome! 5aved"

GRRRRR! But it's sometimes good when he rates you a 5 for no reason.

i know what you mean ... but dont say you dont do it to.

Well as others have said ,,, it cant be resolved with new members joining all the time

Please don't make Kaylab the next Evil_Sire. All he's doing is rating maps differently to you. Out of all the people in this community, you have chosen the one who rates higher than the average. What is wrong with you people?!

Hi. Ratings are subjective. There's nothing to do but accept it and move on. It's not a NUMA thing, it's a reality thing.

But going back to NUMA, even if there weren't a bunch of noobs always floating around (who tend to rate things more highly than they should), I'm sure you'd still find plenty of discrepancies between your own score and the average rating.

However, ratings are a way to hope to achieve a rough quantified community consensus about a map. As such, they serve an important purpose and ratings are not meaningless or horrible. But they still are subjective.[/beating-the-dead-horse]

Condog wrote:Please don't make Kaylab the next Evil_Sire. All he's doing is rating maps differently to you. Out of all the people in this community, you have chosen the one who rates higher than the average. What is wrong with you people?!

What's with he Evil_Sire thing. And how comes evryone comes from where I come from where I do. But then again anyone can make up a location, like me. So many people live in the same city as me! Never mind, I justwanna find out about Evil_Sire

To me, one part of the problem seems that too many people consider a 3/5 a "bad" rating and don't want to call a map 'average' even though they don't think the map really deserves a "very good." People also tend to round up.

NUMA did away with half-ratings to take the focus off of them; now the ratings stand as an estimation of the general public's opinion, and I guess because no two people can probably agree on what exactly makes a map "average," you can't complain that people rate too highly.

I do wish that everyone would start rounding their ratings down so that getting a 4/5 doesn't serve so much as the pseudo-default rating around here.

Oh, and something I heard about before. Losttortuga and someone else was talking about these ratings on one of Losttortuga's maps. I think it was ska. They were saying that by now, normally it would have been publically rated. That mustmean that either there are more half-ratings going about or people are just not looking or rating maps as much.

Let's bash this innocent kid more. He made a comment, and you came out more immature then he did. Leave him alone, your opinion isn't everyone else's, so don't assume it.