AltArc

[blackson]

Unread comments is nice, try to implement that as well.

[toasters]

I guess since apparently you have the site pretty much ready this may not matter, but for the most part all of your new features seem to be relatively minor changes or upgrades to existing features. I haven't seen anything significantly different that would justify an entire new site. Because of this I think that you should try and implement these features with the current NUMA. But we'll see what happens.

[aids]

I guess since apparently you have the site pretty much ready this may not matter, but for the most part all of your new features seem to be relatively minor changes or upgrades to existing features. I haven't seen anything significantly different that would justify an entire new site. Because of this I think that you should try and implement these features with the current NUMA. But we'll see what happens.

Gforce doesn't have access to Arachnid's site (nmaps.net) so he's trying his own, which might be easier to change and update.

[Radium]

OH OH! Favorite authors list!

[Fraxtil]

Favorite Authors can easily be implemented, as well as more specific "favorite" lists like maps of a certain genre made by a certain author, or even just a favorite tag.

Unread comments could be tricky, but I'll see what I can do.

Also, map packs and collaborations will have some special features included.

[aids]

if this ends up doing all the things you say it'll do, you'll be my new hero.

how about a 'watch' tag to alert you on new comments on maps, instead of fav'ing them or bookmarking them, etc. easier to click a 'watch' tag and get a page of maps then scrolling through your faves all the time.

[Fraxtil]

Yesterday the voting system was implemented. The current system is percentage based, and the user has two choices: vote up, or vote down. I'm sure there's a lot of people who would want to have more options than that, so what would you guys want?

Also, I decided on a name: AltArc, short for Alternate Archive.

[Destiny]

This actually sounds pretty awesome. Make sure it's sexy. And i liked the old .5 rating system. your up/down system wouldnt be very good, i feel.

[Fraxtil]

This actually sounds pretty awesome. Make sure it's sexy. And i liked the old .5 rating system. your up/down system wouldnt be very good, i feel.

First off, what would you define as "sexy"? Are you just talking about the visual style?

As for the rating system: if I were to reduce the 0-100% value to a 0-5 value with one decimal point, then change the voting options to increments of .5, would that make everyone happy?

(Basically, you could vote 0, 0.5, 1, ... 4.5, 5, and the average rating would be displayed as 0, 0.1, 0.2, ... 4.9, 5.)

[epigone]

I don't know if an alternate site is such a good idea. Two NUMA-esque sites running at once? You're going to inevitably cause division amongst mappers, not everyone is going to want to post maps on and check both sites for new maps. I think it's great that you're trying to lead by example and solve the problems you see as most pertinent, but in some ways I'm not sure this ought to be done.

[SkyPanda]

Epigone is right, are you sure there's enough people to set up an alternate site?

[Fraxtil]

What exactly do you mean by "enough people"? Right now, I'm the only one working on the project, but I'm certainly open to the idea of having more pople working on it eventually. If you're talking about the community in general, I'd say that a current database of 150K maps says we have a pretty big community.

So far, the biggest doubt about an alternate site seems to be "splitting the community". I'm trying my hardest to design this site with compatibility for Numa (right now, authors can enter their Numa name and they'll have a link to their profile on any search page.)

[epigone]

What exactly do you mean by "enough people"? Right now, I'm the only one working on the project, but I'm certainly open to the idea of having more pople working on it eventually. If you're talking about the community in general, I'd say that a current database of 150K maps says we have a pretty big community.

So far, the biggest doubt about an alternate site seems to be "splitting the community". I'm trying my hardest to design this site with compatibility for Numa (right now, authors can enter their Numa name and they'll have a link to their profile on any search page.)

I'm glad to hear that you've considered the "splitting the community" problem. I hope that whatever your final result is, it is fully backwards-compatible.

And please don't make it invite only. That would be an awful idea. Your website would instantly become an elitist, snobby sort of place. Noobs and nooby maps suck, but they're part of the community, part of what makes our community as good as it is.

[unoriginal name]

I gotta say: I'm really liking this idea. Having a separate, lower-profile archive could work really well, like a place for in-the-know mapmakers to congregate and and play each others maps away from the barrage on NUMA.

[origami_alligator]

I gotta say: I'm really liking this idea. Having a separate, lower-profile archive could work really well, like a place for in-the-know mapmakers to congregate and and play each others maps away from the barrage on NUMA.

how elitist. I thought of the same thing, but I just came to the conclusion that the members would probably be split and that AltArc wouldn't really be a "safe-haven" from n00b maps. There would just be considerably less of them than there are now.

Ratings system? I think if you're going to go with a +/- system it should work like the one on Urban Dictionary, where it just shows how many people approved and how many didn't. Of course, an IP check would be nice to make sure people don't multiaccount and screw with the ups/downs of rating.
Personally I would appreciate being able to see how many people have favourited my map, as well as who. deviantArt does it and I think it creates an atmosphere of appreciation. I would love getting a comment and sending comments saying, "Thanks for favouriting my map!" It also would help people connect to other users maps easier and benefit the community greatly more than harm it I would imagine.
There's a lot that I would like done for NUMA. If favouriting authors and showing favourites were considered and implemented that would be pro.

Still, I would prefer someone help out current NUMA rather than make a separate site.

[Fraxtil]

Just finished revisions on the rating system. User has a choice of 0, 0.5, 1... 4, 4.5 ,5, but the overall rating shows up as 0, 0.1, 0.2... 4.8,4.9, 5.
I'm afraid the new site won't be fully "backwards-compatible", but who knows, maybe I could do something like an "Import Maps from NUMA" feature.
Also, I'm probably getting your hopes up a bit early, so here's a preview of what the site looks like at the moment: Screenshots: Right now it's a fairly minimal interface and even the features look boring, but I have to focus on functionality before designing the special features. (Feel free to ask for any more screenshots.) Additionally, here's a list of planned features (in the order that I plan on implementing them):

• Restrict submitter from rating own map
  Implement Votes Sent, Votes Received on user list
  Ability to delete maps
  Front page customization
  User preferences
  Comment system (nested?)
  Stylesheet design
  [Release to public for testing]
  More stylesheet design
  Mappack, collab support
  Batch-download maps
  (all other user-suggested features)

Edit: Almost forgot! All votes are logged, so if you suspect someone's sniping your maps, I can look through the votes and see if someone's blindly giving zeroes. (That's my response to the multiaccounting problem- I can also see if somebody's giving one user all 5's.)

[George]

Here's a suggestion I made a while back. I have no idea if it's possible or not...

Also, I'm not really in favour for a separate site. It'd be much better to try incorporate these features into the current NUMA.

[Fraxtil]

Here's a suggestion I made a while back. I have no idea if it's possible or not...

Also, I'm not really in favour for a separate site. It'd be much better to try incorporate these features into the current NUMA.

I could definitely implement comment/demo history.

As I've said before, I don't have access to NUMA's framework and there's a few features that Arachnid has declared incompatible with the Newma. I'm doing my best to make this as compatible with Numa as possible.

[epigone]

A few things I dislike about your site based off your most recent post.

1. I don't like that you have to submit your own screen shot of the map, the way NUMA works now with thumbnails is really good.

2. I actually like that you can't delete maps and instead can only delist them. I'd recommend leaving that in your "AltArc"

3. I dislike the .5 rating system, but I understand that you and many others do, so I suppose swaying your opinion on this is nearly impossible.

4. I'm also unsure about the new tag system. I think it will work, but why not the separate boxes with suggestions like it is now? If it's not broken, why fix it?

I hope you don't mind all the criticism I'm giving you. I'm not trying to make it personal, though I dislike the idea of an alternative archive, I'll support your efforts to make one and I'm only critiquing you so that you can make it as good as possible.

[origami_alligator]

Here's a suggestion I made a while back. I have no idea if it's possible or not...

Also, I'm not really in favour for a separate site. It'd be much better to try incorporate these features into the current NUMA.

I could definitely implement comment/demo history.

As I've said before, I don't have access to NUMA's framework and there's a few features that Arachnid has declared incompatible with the Newma. I'm doing my best to make this as compatible with Numa as possible.

Framework as in?
CSS is here: http://nmaps.net/static/main.css
Javascript is here: http://nmaps.net/static/util.js

If you needed anything more than that I don't know how to help you, but I figure those two are what you would look for.

[TheSeer]

There's a whole bunch of Python code that generates the actual web pages that Gforce can't access. The CSS and Javascript are more about the look and feel of NUMA than its actual functionality.

[aids]

A few things I dislike about your site based off your most recent post.

1. I don't like that you have to submit your own screen shot of the map, the way NUMA works now with thumbnails is really good.

2. I actually like that you can't delete maps and instead can only delist them. I'd recommend leaving that in your "AltArc"

3. I dislike the .5 rating system, but I understand that you and many others do, so I suppose swaying your opinion on this is nearly impossible.

4. I'm also unsure about the new tag system. I think it will work, but why not the separate boxes with suggestions like it is now? If it's not broken, why fix it?

I hope you don't mind all the criticism I'm giving you. I'm not trying to make it personal, though I dislike the idea of an alternative archive, I'll support your efforts to make one and I'm only critiquing you so that you can make it as good as possible.

1. auto-screenshots would be the way to go. otherwise, no one would submit screenshots.
2. agreed. make a separate listing for 'hidden' maps.
3. how about 0-4, like in the game, with 4 being the highest. and how about rating by -the bar graph looking thing- instead of ninjas?
4. that tag system will do just fine.

suggestions:

the ability to tag others' maps. say I'm a featurer (will that be implemented) and want to tag all feature-worthy maps so as to easily find them, e.g. tag them with "f-Life247" so I can have a listing of maps to feature, or tag maps with "d-Life247" if I have demos I like.

what if there was a demo listing for agd/speedruns? is it possible?

[Fraxtil]

Please vote on your preferred rating system. This seems to be one of the hottest topics right now, so I'm giving you your choice.
Other polls: Comment system, Visual style
As for deleting/delisting, what if I gave the option for doing both?
Also, with the screenshots: I might be able to use Numa's image generator by faking an automated submission to the server, then retrieving the image. That might be considered cheating though. :/

[toasters]

Some small issues:
- Bigger text box for writing map descriptions?
- Does it still take 5 votes for a map to be "publicly" rated?
- How does editing a map work?

I think the commenting system on NUMA is fine, apart from the bugs. Voting in increments of .5 would be nice, I dunno about the +- system. And I really liked southpaw's idea, maybe on your map there could be a little list of which authors have favorited this map. Also if thumbnails aren't there I would really miss them :O

[George]

Evil_Sire, a 'Change Name' function for member use would be abused. Definitely a no. Also, a Top Rated page would once again emphasize the importance of ratings, and would incur a rise in sniping.

And implementation of the old NUMA hacking techniques across the site would be splendid.