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I cannot get a good tileset for the life of me. at. all. as in, this is my best tileset (playable)

but it is not that good. I need some help. could someone show me how to make a good tileset?

Huh. What I do: I make a shape. and then spam the shape all over the map. then make lines, via 3,2,7, and 6 tiles through everything. Then I mess around, and make things work.

I base my map around mechanisms or a particular mechanic think through the most complicated way in which it can all fit. I then build these mechanisms test them, modify them and radically change the layout of my map, test again, go get some coffee, test again and finally I start to think about tiles after that.

@Inspired that is quite a good method but there is a drastic change between steps 2 and 3 maybe you should go into more detail about precicely how you acheive that.

that's kinda how i do it.

Tunco123 wrote:I start off with building tiles. Where I build tiles is important, I like to focus on a single enemy, so as the tileset should provide the gameplay for it.
In this map, I will make the tileset to top of the map, and the focused enemy is on rockets.
First, I basically make a -not random- shape from E tiles.
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Then, I place my ninja and some enemies.
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I make tiles better.
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I add gold to map and fix parts that is not good.
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Adding mines and some more stuff that I see it's missing.
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More changes and playtest.
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Done!

How I make the tiles and the map are explained in this post. Well, I use Inspired's technique.

I usually just think about some cool picture, and then start drawing it with the shapes of the tiles on paper. When that is done, I open my computer and start making the map.

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