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What do you think the Soldier's new weapons will be?

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An alternative rocket launcher.The_Juggler wrote:I expect that the Soldier will be in the next update.
What do you think the Soldier's new weapons will be?
For secondary, you'd think grenades because of the shotgun taunt, but we all know Valve doesn't make it this obvious.

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It better be the engineer.The_Juggler wrote:I expect that the Soldier will be in the next update.
What do you think the Soldier's new weapons will be?
I'll be pissed if it isn't.

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And I've thought about Engineer - what the heck will he ever have for an update. The engineer's wrench and shotgun are really just for the purpose of repairing and defending his buildings.Tsukatu wrote:It better be the engineer.The_Juggler wrote:I expect that the Soldier will be in the next update.
What do you think the Soldier's new weapons will be?
I'll be pissed if it isn't.
The wrench might get an alternative, some sort of advantage/drawback sort of thing.
But will he have new or different buildings?
That will be a *huge* change to the game if this is so.

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It's almost 100% certain to be Soldier.Tsukatu wrote:It better be the engineer.The_Juggler wrote:I expect that the Soldier will be in the next update.
What do you think the Soldier's new weapons will be?
I'll be pissed if it isn't.
Engie will likely be the last update. Engie is sorta the spine of the game--the first class created. The timing of the engineer serves as the basis for all other classes, in fact. It'll be a tough nut to crack.

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It's my favorite strategy. I've never kept it up as long as they did, usually only lasts for one or two cycles. The only viable way to stop it is to retreat until it fully runs out and don't give the medics any targets. But most players, assuming that you "wasted" the uber, will sit around until it wears off so they can get an easy kill. How wrong they are to hang around for the infinite uber.

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It is fun to attempt it, though.

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A pyro breaks it, yeah. I've found that demo is equally useful for screwing up an ubered pair, especially medic-demo. Lay some stickies under the two of them, wait for one to jump (usually the medic) and catapult them apart. It works surprisingly often and you don't even have to debase yourself by playing pyro.brighter wrote:I love utterly destroying uber chain medics with my airblast. It's a rather pointless tactic, imo, I rarely see many kills made by a successfully sustained chain, and if the opposing team has a perceptive Pyro it's impossible for them to do anything.
It is fun to attempt it, though.

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Yeh, that would be much more stylish. Although I find that knowing how annoying it is being held in a corner by a well timed succession of airblasts goes a long way to counterbalancing any debasement, especially if the chained medics are decent.blue_tetris wrote:A pyro breaks it, yeah. I've found that demo is equally useful for screwing up an ubered pair, especially medic-demo. Lay some stickies under the two of them, wait for one to jump (usually the medic) and catapult them apart. It works surprisingly often and you don't even have to debase yourself by playing pyro.brighter wrote:I love utterly destroying uber chain medics with my airblast. It's a rather pointless tactic, imo, I rarely see many kills made by a successfully sustained chain, and if the opposing team has a perceptive Pyro it's impossible for them to do anything.
It is fun to attempt it, though.
Also, placing a well timed Hadouken taunt at the end of an airblast hold is uber-duper satisfying!

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The pyro juggle is predictable. A good demo can still knock out the buildings in view while being juggled. The demo knock is extreme and unpredictable. The medic almost always loses hold of his target during one, whereas the uber stays on pretty easily during a pyro juggle.brighter wrote:Yeh, that would be much more stylish. Although I find that knowing how annoying it is being held in a corner by a well timed succession of airblasts goes a long way to counterbalancing any debasement, especially if the chained medics are decent.
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This ticks me off so much when members on my team don't know how to do it while the other team does. >:(brighter wrote:I love utterly destroying uber chain medics with my airblast.
Backburner is lame. :( They need to put back the +50 health.

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It's predictable, but it's very reliable. If held with decent timing, the medics can do absolutely nothing but hold onto their remaining ubers for dear life knowing that once they run out the pyro is going to flame them to hell.blue_tetris wrote:The pyro juggle is predictable. A good demo can still knock out the buildings in view while being juggled. The demo knock is extreme and unpredictable. The medic almost always loses hold of his target during one, whereas the uber stays on pretty easily during a pyro juggle.brighter wrote:Yeh, that would be much more stylish. Although I find that knowing how annoying it is being held in a corner by a well timed succession of airblasts goes a long way to counterbalancing any debasement, especially if the chained medics are decent.
Also, placing a well timed Hadouken taunt at the end of an airblast hold is uber-duper satisfying!
Goes tits up if the pryo runs out of gas, but as the chain usually happens well behind enemy lines, there's usually enough of a guarantee they'll be dead after the hold.
Even if they don't die, deflecting the brunt of a chain charge is reward in itself.

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Hopefully an Engineer update might include a different PDA with a different set of 4 buildings? I also considered that maybe he could have a unique weapon that uses metal for ammo (especially since once the nest is up your 200 metal is never used again)...
Airblasting ubers works best when the uber target is a Heavy, especially when they're attacking sentries. As soon as they come round the corner just blast 'em back.
The idling/halo update was funny at first. But looking at the Steam forums it seems like no one can take a joke...
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He does have those huge grenades strapped to him, but yeah we already see grenades from the demoman.Wannas wrote:A Soldier update might include grenades but it'd have to be something new and interesting since Demos already have them.
However, I sort of think some of the updates make a class behave more like another class.
For example the Scout update makes him behave a bit like a Spy
A scout can drink the energy drink, run behind enemy lines, and make 1-hit kills with the force-a-nature - just like a Spy.
Another thought is him having a Machine Gun - which would make him behave more like a Heavy.
It makes sense for a Soldier to carry an automatic gun, but at the same time every other update ever has been a variant on the existing weapon.
Maybe some kind of wide-spread rocket - or homing rocket!

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Because the flare looks like a tampon.Wannas wrote:Last thing: I've heard the Flare Gun being called a Tampon Gun. Discuss.
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Another idea I had was a single free rocket jump. Right click for a one-use jump, like a rocket pack.

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Oh, god. That single-use jetpack idea would be amazing. I have no idea what they'd do for the rocket launcher, however. The only thing I can think of is something similar to the FaN, as in, only two rockets, but they fire faster, and are more potent.blue_tetris wrote:I've considered a Strangelove rocket for the soldier. Right click to fire a rocket and ride on it to its destination, steering it around and stuff.
Another idea I had was a single free rocket jump. Right click for a one-use jump, like a rocket pack.
- Cross-Galactic Train Conducter
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Not sure when or if these changes will make their way into TF2 anytime soon, but some of them look awesome. (/points to spy suit)

- Cross-Galactic Train Conducter
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- Yet Another Harshad
- Posts: 471
- Joined: 2008.10.24 (09:39)
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- MBTI Type: ISTP
- Location: Australia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Spj0wYEqQ

Orange- N cannot be spoken, or even thought about in my household. If my parents ever found out that I have played N since the cleansing, my life would be ruined. I keep the game in a multi-passworded .rar on a USB flash drive inside a locked boron alloy container that requires two keys to open (I keep one under the 64th hammer in my piano, and the other one in a small section of removable ceiling in the corner of the attic) hidden in a wall compartment lined with aluminium foil to prevent sonar detection behind my 375 kg cupboard, which is bolted to the floor - the only way to reach it is to abseil outside the fourth floor window and use a screwdriver to unfasten the screws holding the secret brick in place on the opposite side of the wall, but the screwdriver must be a specific type like the one I own, since if any other screwdriver comes into contact with the screws, the entire building will explode, as will a seperate charge placed inside the boron alloy container, rendering the USB useless. Even once the container is retrieved, attemping to open it without the arming pin in place (which is kept inside the battery compartment of my Maglite) will cause the water reservoirs lining the container to burst and react with the caesium lining, causing the container to burst into flames - the only way to prevent this is to use the arming pins to shut off the reservoirs with a sliding steel door. The USB itself contains an accelerometer linked to an explosive charge, meaning that if the USB detects its own movement speed as being greater than 5 cm/s, it will explode - any person attempting to steal it would have to move at a uselessly slow speed. Once plugged into a computer, the USB will upload a ghost virus onto it, leaving no traces. Only the right password can deactivate this virus, and if it is left on the computer for more than six hours, it will format all drives.
As you can see, I take my N playing very seriously.
Guiseppi- I'd much rather watch animals get boned in the ass.
Yanni- If it's glad, it's not rape.
Tsukatu- I refuse to use throw-away bags for such a frequent purpose as buying groceries. Instead, I've collected the hair of my two pet dogs and have woven them together into an all-natural, 100% environmentally friendly bag that I bring with me everywhere. And when I buy products that come in glass and plastic containers, I track down the company that packages them and ship back their containers so that they don't take up space in landfills.
Yeah, I use plastic.
Tsukatu- I hear Ebony Online is great, too. Cum save your princess, my lord!
Ska- UR MUM LIKE IS SPICY
Ska- why d i get the feeling what i typed will end up in the quote depository; or worse: someone's sig.
KinGAleX- I did it on the couch a little while ago.
Zeph- I got too pissed at the knife in the end so I just broke the wood on my knee
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[13:50:53] <Zeph> omfg 1950s jazz
[13:50:57] <WorldCupE> ZEPH
[13:51:01] <WorldCupE> WHAT
[13:51:11] <WorldCupE> hpw
[13:51:12] <WorldCupE> how
[13:51:12] <Zeph> everyone wears out halfway through the match
[13:51:15] <WorldCupE> ._.
[13:51:17] <WorldCupE> you
[13:51:19] <WorldCupE> aren't
[13:51:20] <WorldCupE> here
[13:51:24] <WorldCupikaze> I think the broadcasters lowered the volume for certain frequencies
[13:51:35] <WorldCupikaze> WOAH
[13:51:38] <WorldCupikaze> STOP IT ZEPH
[13:51:46] <WorldCupE> he's in #n
[13:51:49] <WorldCupE> but not here
[13:51:58] <Zeph> that nz guy wasn't fouled
[13:52:05] <WorldCupikaze> DUBBLE YOO. TEE. EFF.
[13:52:05] <WorldCupikaze> STOPIT
[13:52:29] <WorldCupE> I don't think Zeph can read what we say
[13:52:38] <WorldCupikaze> No
[13:52:41] <WorldCupikaze> But it still happens
[13:52:46] <WorldCupE> xD
[13:52:47] <Zeph> holy shot I'm vibrating to 1950s relaxing jazz
[13:52:58] <WorldCupE> ZEPH
[13:53:01] <WorldCupE> CAN YOYU HEAR ME
[13:53:20] <WorldCupE> donfuy
[13:53:23] <WorldCupE> have you seen this
[13:53:35] <Donfuy> i can't
[13:53:43] <WorldCupE> can't what
[13:53:47] <WorldCupE> Zeph isn't here
[13:53:48] <WorldCupikaze> WHAT's GOING ON
[13:53:51] <WorldCupE> but is speaking
[13:53:51] <WorldCupE> D:
[13:53:58] <Donfuy> can't see what huh?
[13:54:06] <WorldCupikaze> IT'S THE APOCALYPSE
[13:54:10] <Donfuy> where's zeph o_o
[13:54:18] <WorldCupE> precisely
[13:54:21] <WorldCupikaze> Exactly
[13:55:21] <WorldCupikaze> call wide
[13:55:24] <Zeph> Pooh
[13:55:28] <WorldCupikaze> EH?
[13:55:37] <WorldCupikaze> OOOOOOOOoh
[13:55:38] <Zeph> amazing slide tackle saves day
[13:55:48] <WorldCupikaze> WHY ARE YOU TALKING YOU AREN'T HERE
[13:56:53] <WorldCupikaze> call wide
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[13:32:43] <WorldCupE> ZEPH D:<
[13:32:44] <Zeph> fucking irc app
[13:32:47] <WorldCupE> O_O
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Whoa, what? A webcomic?
'The brain is a wonderful organ. It starts working the moment you get up in the morning, and doesn't stop until you get to the office'
--Robert Frost
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Wahahahahaha.Zephyr wrote:Have any of you seen this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Spj0wYEqQ
Amazing.

The Real N Sex on the Xerox Space Pimp Online Super Fluffy Pack 1! Super Fluffy Pack 2! Super Crunchy Pack! Mother Thumping Impossible: 2005 MotY! Time is on My Side: 2006 PMotY! Survival map king! Best humor award! Best satire award! Best voice award! Inadvertently intimidating! Assholier than thou! Gdubs is totally back! WIS 14! Cyberzone creator! Clique creator! Most lines on IRC! Ventrilo moderator and regular! Certified Dungeon Master! Most modest person ever! ENTP! Incorrigible alcoholic! CHA 19! AMERICAN! Least pretentious! Elitist extraordinaire! Liberal libertarian! Incapable of experiencing love! Check Safe! Commodore of the Eldritch Seas! Archmagus of the Eleventh Hall! Sheriff of the Uncharted West! Godfather of the IRC Mafia! Pun enthusiast! Quadster! Challenging Dunbar's number! Wikipedian!Approves of 4th Edition! 1,000 Blank White Cards! radio_free_tetris! Migratory! INT 18! Doesn't know when he's being genuine, therefore cannot form lasting relationships with people! Really into black chicks! Even more into Indian chicks and Blasians! Hates moderators! Loves the C word! Tronster! Thinks we should play more Worms! Always wins iSketch! Owns a Wii! Plays as Pikachu in Smash Bros! Wrote literotica! Wrote anime fanfic! Sorta into Asians! Lived and loved the 80's and 90's! Chattiest sig! Cyberzone ][ creator! Operand of the Greater Space Pimp Continuum! Helped lead the forum move!Wizard Date! Participated in the blue_tetris takeover! Pithiest one-liners! Walkin' on, walkin' on broken glass! Seems to have an invisible touch! Economist! Mario hackster! Owner of the most complex D&D campaign setting! Micromanagerial! FREEDOM is all-American! Slowly distancing! Supports the Democrats! Supports the old GOP! CATO Institute fanboy! Penn and Teller fan! Large, in charge, and on a barge! Heralded by community as genius hero! Proud yet humble recipient of the Mare & Raigan Award for 2008! CON 9! Dave of Nazareth! Communist is annoyed with me! Not half bad at images! F.Y.I. I am a medic! It's a spook house, lame ball. Too bad! Space Pimp II: Rags 2 Bitches! F.Y.I. I am a spy! Entire team is babbies! STR 10! Sorta appreciating scythe and atob again, for new reasons! Played CS:S briefly! Welcome to Nebraska! Do you think you can Live! Heist! Portrayer of the mighty 88 Shells! Joyous proprietor of the future estate of Kablizzy and blue_tetris! It's Batmen all the way up! They brought crystals to a sceince fight; that's a good way to lose your cat! Even SlappyMcGee! I'm about to run out of either primates or sexually transmitted diseases! One-upper! Toaster oven clairvoyant Mythomaniac! That's the Magic of Macy's! Half of Half! Spend all my time making love, all my love making time!
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