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So says my 16 yr old sister, taking an A level in Graphics. I completely disagree with her; it holds the same integrity and concepts as art when used for that purpose, only with some very different appparatus. She also says "Its just a bunch of pixels; anyone can do it". I completely disagree.

Do you agree in that art on a computer is inferior to art in the real world? Im interested in seeing whos in the right here.

The PYRAMIDS OF BOK+CHOY ceiling wasn't art, it was just a bunch of paint. Anyone could do that. Michelangelo's David wasn't art, it was just a bunch of rock. Rocks are everywhere. Shakespeare didn't make art, he just jumbled together letters. I'm using letters right now.

GTM wrote:So says my 16 yr old sister, taking an A level in Graphics. I completely disagree with her; it holds the same integrity and concepts as art when used for that purpose, only with some very different appparatus. She also says "Its just a bunch of pixels; anyone can do it". I completely disagree.

Do you agree in that art on a computer is inferior to art in the real world? Im interested in seeing whos in the right here.

Reads like the kind of rebellious/ignorant/naive babblings of a teenager attempting to discover the values of things. We've all been through it to some degree. I wouldn't even bother trying to argue with her, she'll know best until she learns she doesn't know all that much of her own accord.

Good Art is Good Art. Regardless of the medium, it all takes an amount of natural talent and educated skill.

ART BE EVERYWHERE.

dis post iz art.

art
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–noun
1. the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance.
2. the class of objects subject to aesthetic criteria; works of art collectively, as paintings, sculptures, or drawings: a museum of art; an art collection.
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b. (used with a plural verb) liberal arts.
12. skilled workmanship, execution, or agency, as distinguished from nature.
13. trickery; cunning: glib and devious art.
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16. Archaic. science, learning, or scholarship.

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art is art if the artist defines it as such

Deathconciousness wrote:art is art if the artist defines it as such

EXXZACTZLY, and anyone can be the artist.

anyone can be an artist. most people can be a good artist. a lot of people can be a great artist. very few reveal the art that is inside them.

gloomp wrote:
Deathconciousness wrote:art is art if the artist defines it as such
EXXZACTZLY, and anyone can be the artist.

We have to draw the line somewhere, dude.

why should there be an arbitrary definition for art. if you dont like it, and someone calls it art, give them the finger and say its "bad art". therefore you can circumvent both extremes.

I believe that statement from your sister was said without much thought.
And that it was said for the sake of argument.

incluye wrote:
gloomp wrote:
Deathconciousness wrote:art is art if the artist defines it as such
EXXZACTZLY, and anyone can be the artist.
We have to draw the line somewhere, dude.

No, we do not. The artist does. One may say he does not like the art the artist produced, but not that it is not art.

gloomp wrote:
incluye wrote:[We have to draw the line somewhere, dude.
No, we do not. The artist does. One may say he does not like the art the artist produced, but not that it is not art.

Would you say a small iron cube is art? The sculptor said so.

incluye wrote:
gloomp wrote:
incluye wrote:[We have to draw the line somewhere, dude.
No, we do not. The artist does. One may say he does not like the art the artist produced, but not that it is not art.
Would you say a small iron cube is art? The sculptor said so.

Sure, if that cube was made for the purpose of art, and no other, I'd say yes.

the sculptor is a pretentious idiot who wants attention and money, that's what it is.

It's tricky to define art. If you say that anything created by someone who intends it to be art is art, then you get those postmodern d-bags who think that this kind of thing is art. If you define art as something which produces aesthetic pleasure in a viewer, then art is entirely subjective. This definition fails (I think) at identifying something which is clearly art, but not good art.

Also, if nature produced a beautiful painting without human intervention, then would that be art?

GTM wrote:So says my 16 yr old sister, taking an A level in Graphics. I completely disagree with her; it holds the same integrity and concepts as art when used for that purpose, only with some very different appparatus. She also says "Its just a bunch of pixels; anyone can do it". I completely disagree.

Do you agree in that art on a computer is inferior to art in the real world? Im interested in seeing whos in the right here.

Your sister is an idiot.
Lemme have her phone number; I want to berate her.

I disagree with your sister. Computer art is not inferior.

incluye wrote:
gloomp wrote:
Deathconciousness wrote:art is art if the artist defines it as such
EXXZACTZLY, and anyone can be the artist.
We have to draw the line somewhere, dude.

And that line is Paint.NET. Everything else is art.

i agree that paint.net isnt art
but i like art

Well shit, what does your sister define art as? Oil on canvas? It's just a bunch of paint, anyone can do it.

Also, on the subject of the definition of art (originally from SMBC, but i couldn't find the link):

again if you want to be a pretentious douchebag, then yes that is art condog (not saying you are).

its just horrible art.

http://www.deviantart.com/#catpath=digitalart&order=9

you cant disagree with stuff like this, this, this, this, and this, to just give a few examples.
long story short: youre wrong, little girl.

Tsukatu wrote:
GTM wrote:So says my 16 yr old sister, taking an A level in Graphics. I completely disagree with her; it holds the same integrity and concepts as art when used for that purpose, only with some very different appparatus. She also says "Its just a bunch of pixels; anyone can do it". I completely disagree.

Do you agree in that art on a computer is inferior to art in the real world? Im interested in seeing whos in the right here.
Your sister is an idiot.
Lemme have her phone number; I want to berate her.

Yeah, I'd like her phone number to. You know, strictly for berating purposes.

GAH GAH GAH GAH GAH GAH GAH

Please, read this before trying to impose your boundaries on art.

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