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I thought his speech was very interesting, at times surprisingly direct, and generally free of bullshit. One of his best.

Discuss, please.

Well, he forgot the second line of the oath... but other than that it was great. He has a way with words.

Freakin' amazing. I'm simply in awe of this country. All this time, I had wondered if we'd ever see a president again who wasn't an old white guy - And here we are. I'm so glad and proud of America that we could follow in the footsteps of Germany and South Africa. Here - all this time - I thought that Dave and I were the only ones who were down with the swirl, but I guess all of America is now, too.

GTM wrote:Well, he forgot the second line of the oath... but other than that it was great. He has a way with words.

That wasn't my take. It looked to me like he memorized the oath beforehand (which, no doubt, he did), and then when Roberts read it wrong, he was tripped up. Roberts said the 'faithfully' in the wrong place, and Obama attempted to mesh what he had memorized with what Roberts said.

Also, on the first line, Roberts paused slightly, and Obama interpreted that as his time to repeat.
Of course, it's possible he was just nervous. You've got to remember--he was somewhat in fear for his life the whole time.

flagmyidol wrote:Of course, it's possible he was just nervous. You've got to remember--he was somewhat in fear for his life the whole time.

I think it's more because it was the Justice's first time swearing in a new president. But I think it was nice to have a tiny break in all of the seriousness.

I was quite moved by the speech. Obama's comments on the confidence of the American people were particularly inspirational.

Topo wrote:I was quite moved by the speech. Obama's comments on the confidence of the American people were particularly inspirational.

Hope change the middle class, average American the hope. Change for unity, togetherness the middle class!

Hope change the middle class, average American the hope. Change for unity, togetherness the middle class!

QFE, and agreed with demonz. not much more to say; we'll wait to see how much positive change Obama institutes. personally, i think change just for the sake of change is meaningless.

yungerkid wrote:

Hope change the middle class, average American the hope. Change for unity, togetherness the middle class!

QFE, and agreed with demonz. not much more to say; we'll wait to see how much positive change Obama institutes. personally, i think change just for the sake of change is meaningless.

"Progress for the sake of progress will be discouraged..."

You son of a conservative. ;)

While he was delivering it? "Hurry up, my feet hurt."

I suppose it was a good speech, but I only half heard it.

DemonzLunchBreak wrote:I've said this in U.S. History class, and I'll say it now. Obama already has a huge cult of personality, and he hasn't done anything yet. Yes, it's great that he was elected but when I see things like a calendar with Obama's face in the center and MLK and JFK to either side of him, it makes me angry. Or when people compare him to F.D.R. That makes me angry, too. Let's judge this presidency after it has done something.

QFE

This is bigger news, in my opinion. Speeches are speeches.

I loved it.

DemonzLunchBreak wrote:I've said this in U.S. History class, and I'll say it now. Obama already has a huge cult of personality, and he hasn't done anything yet. Yes, it's great that he was elected but when I see things like a calendar with Obama's face in the center and MLK and JFK to either side of him, it makes me angry. Or when people compare him to F.D.R. That makes me angry, too. Let's judge this presidency after it has done something.

In the recent words of Jeffrey J. Rowland, everything is still totally fucked.

The speech was all right. We Canadians have been giving speeches since forever.

rennaT wrote:

DemonzLunchBreak wrote:I've said this in U.S. History class, and I'll say it now. Obama already has a huge cult of personality, and he hasn't done anything yet. Yes, it's great that he was elected but when I see things like a calendar with Obama's face in the center and MLK and JFK to either side of him, it makes me angry. Or when people compare him to F.D.R. That makes me angry, too. Let's judge this presidency after it has done something.

In the recent words of Jeffrey J. Rowland, everything is still totally fucked.

All this stuff seems so derivative: http://sotx.therealn.com/index.php?comic=45

blue_tetris wrote:

rennaT wrote:

DemonzLunchBreak wrote:I've said this in U.S. History class, and I'll say it now. Obama already has a huge cult of personality, and he hasn't done anything yet. Yes, it's great that he was elected but when I see things like a calendar with Obama's face in the center and MLK and JFK to either side of him, it makes me angry. Or when people compare him to F.D.R. That makes me angry, too. Let's judge this presidency after it has done something.

In the recent words of Jeffrey J. Rowland, everything is still totally fucked.

All this stuff seems so derivative: http://sotx.therealn.com/index.php?comic=45

On the other hand, Dune/Eye of Sauron Fanpic?

Why is it the texture of an electronic dream?

blue_tetris wrote:Why is it the texture of an electronic dream?

This spice is... precious to us?

DemonzLunchBreak wrote:I've said this in U.S. History class, and I'll say it now. Obama already has a huge cult of personality, and he hasn't done anything yet. Yes, it's great that he was elected but when I see things like a calendar with Obama's face in the center and MLK and JFK to either side of him, it makes me angry. Or when people compare him to F.D.R. That makes me angry, too. Let's judge this presidency after it has done something.

Actually, he's already suspended trials at that maximum security prison in Cuba, and he's making plans to close it down after 16 months. Guantanamo Bay? Idk.

Also, he's annoucned to divert troops from Iraq into Afghanistan, I think.

You guys really know how to get off topic...

Anyway, Obama's closing of Guantanamo Bay was definitely a good start. I thought it was interesting that some of the people there are going to be outright released, and that some of the war criminals that were tortured will have all charges dropped.

the first 5 minutes i wondered why he was always looking to the right and the left
like he was watching a tennis match.

Then I recognized the two screens left and right to him^.

Obama may support hope, but i propose DESPAIR!!!! seriously though, hope is pointless. if you have something you want, go out and flipping earn it. don't just wait and hope. hoping does absolutely nothing. Obama has a bit too modern of a mindset for me.

GTM wrote:

DemonzLunchBreak wrote:I've said this in U.S. History class, and I'll say it now. Obama already has a huge cult of personality, and he hasn't done anything yet. Yes, it's great that he was elected but when I see things like a calendar with Obama's face in the center and MLK and JFK to either side of him, it makes me angry. Or when people compare him to F.D.R. That makes me angry, too. Let's judge this presidency after it has done something.

Actually, he's already suspended trials at that maximum security prison in Cuba, and he's making plans to close it down after 16 months. Guantanamo Bay? Idk.

Also, he's annoucned to divert troops from Iraq into Afghanistan, I think.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28788175/

scythe33 wrote:This is bigger news, in my opinion. Speeches are speeches.

yes, and speeches get you things you may not have been able to get before, or they can block off all hope of you getting anything.

When JFK gave his inaugural address, his approval rating went up a considerable amount. I think speeches are an important part of the presidency.

You should listen to Four Freedoms if you have not done so.